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		<title>By: R. popper</title>
		<link>http://www.faafollies.com/?p=1510&#038;cpage=1#comment-183446</link>
		<dc:creator>R. popper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey SCTONTRAT, Remember when that non union KC Yen cried like a little baby because NATCA would not let him play on their Nintendo games ? Did he ever join the union ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey SCTONTRAT, Remember when that non union KC Yen cried like a little baby because NATCA would not let him play on their Nintendo games ? Did he ever join the union ?</p>
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		<title>By: SCTONTRAT</title>
		<link>http://www.faafollies.com/?p=1510&#038;cpage=1#comment-183444</link>
		<dc:creator>SCTONTRAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon Mark, you&#039;ll never retire and you know it.  You&#039;re just like Marks, say one thing and do another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Mark, you&#8217;ll never retire and you know it.  You&#8217;re just like Marks, say one thing and do another.</p>
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		<title>By: AS@SCT</title>
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		<dc:creator>AS@SCT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Anybody know anything about SCT being 1 of 3 facilities that will be getting 20% CIP ?&quot;


I heard that rumor. No facts to substantiate it. The teams met last week before Thanxgiving. I know NATCA hired an economist as part of our team to make whatever case we presented. Beyond that it&#039;s a matter of wait and see. I believe there were 102 CIP facilities, with C90, GCN and one other I believe, being added during the pay mediation earlier this year. About 5000 NATCA members currently earn CIP.


One thing for sure, management will gravy train off of NATCA again and get yet another NATCA sponsored pay raise if the CIP does go up at SCT and elsewhere. And of course they&#039;ll watch gleefully as we&#039;re screwed on pay again when the next Republican FAAMA hero takes the WH, and their pay isn&#039;t cut or frozen(I&#039;ll be shocked if management doesn&#039;t get whatever(if any)CIP increase the BU gets).

I&#039;ll be retired and watching from the sidelines when that happens again. Sorry ZAB, I&#039;m not hanging to make up for everything that Bush Blakey stole from us. Can&#039;t stand the hypocrisy anymore. And I can&#039;t stand watching SCT add one MSS 2(or higher)after another to their already swollen ranks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Anybody know anything about SCT being 1 of 3 facilities that will be getting 20% CIP ?&#8221;</p>
<p>I heard that rumor. No facts to substantiate it. The teams met last week before Thanxgiving. I know NATCA hired an economist as part of our team to make whatever case we presented. Beyond that it&#8217;s a matter of wait and see. I believe there were 102 CIP facilities, with C90, GCN and one other I believe, being added during the pay mediation earlier this year. About 5000 NATCA members currently earn CIP.</p>
<p>One thing for sure, management will gravy train off of NATCA again and get yet another NATCA sponsored pay raise if the CIP does go up at SCT and elsewhere. And of course they&#8217;ll watch gleefully as we&#8217;re screwed on pay again when the next Republican FAAMA hero takes the WH, and their pay isn&#8217;t cut or frozen(I&#8217;ll be shocked if management doesn&#8217;t get whatever(if any)CIP increase the BU gets).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be retired and watching from the sidelines when that happens again. Sorry ZAB, I&#8217;m not hanging to make up for everything that Bush Blakey stole from us. Can&#8217;t stand the hypocrisy anymore. And I can&#8217;t stand watching SCT add one MSS 2(or higher)after another to their already swollen ranks.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quit with the insults against other people.  Clobber their opinions if you want, but I&#039;m getting tired of the comment section degenerating into &quot;you suck, you&#039;re a crappy person&quot; kinds of arguments.

And frankly it&#039;s generally someone who wants to pretend that everything is hunky-dory with the FAA that says this, instead of actually LISTENING to the anger and hurt and frustration expressed by someone like ZABnut.  The very fact that someone in the agency is that angry, and that they have a LOT of fellow people who understand and share that feeling, indicates that there&#039;s something very, very wrong with our agency.

But mostly I&#039;m not interested in having the comments on every post turn into an attackfest on other people.  If someone&#039;s actions deserve scorn, or ridicule, or exposure, by all means- fire away.  But attacking that PERSON, themselves, with suggestions that they&#039;re mentally ill, is just wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quit with the insults against other people.  Clobber their opinions if you want, but I&#8217;m getting tired of the comment section degenerating into &#8220;you suck, you&#8217;re a crappy person&#8221; kinds of arguments.</p>
<p>And frankly it&#8217;s generally someone who wants to pretend that everything is hunky-dory with the FAA that says this, instead of actually LISTENING to the anger and hurt and frustration expressed by someone like ZABnut.  The very fact that someone in the agency is that angry, and that they have a LOT of fellow people who understand and share that feeling, indicates that there&#8217;s something very, very wrong with our agency.</p>
<p>But mostly I&#8217;m not interested in having the comments on every post turn into an attackfest on other people.  If someone&#8217;s actions deserve scorn, or ridicule, or exposure, by all means- fire away.  But attacking that PERSON, themselves, with suggestions that they&#8217;re mentally ill, is just wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Stop whining</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop whining</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zab&quot;is&quot;nuts are you serious ?  Did you just bring a wife into your angry writings.  I say &quot;a wife&quot; because I&#039;m not married.  You really need to seek out some pyschiatric help.  Your anger is making you dillusional, and trust me when I say it&#039;s not healthy for you to be this angry.  As for calling me small,.....lol wouldn&#039;t you be surprised.  

As for all the &quot;FAKE&quot; people around you, well guess what oh brilliant one,......it&#039;s everyone.  It&#039;s even the ones that you think are not (in your words) &quot;FAKE&quot;.  Everyone has an agenda.  EVERYONE !  

Do you find yourself responding in inappropriate ways to authorities. You may find yourself fluctuating between over-compliance and hostility.  If this is you then reach out and seek help because what you have becomes a sickness and will literally suck the life out of you.  Below you will find the first step to your recovery.  


Sandia Psychiatric Services
2828 12th St NW, Albuquerque, NM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zab&#8221;is&#8221;nuts are you serious ?  Did you just bring a wife into your angry writings.  I say &#8220;a wife&#8221; because I&#8217;m not married.  You really need to seek out some pyschiatric help.  Your anger is making you dillusional, and trust me when I say it&#8217;s not healthy for you to be this angry.  As for calling me small,&#8230;..lol wouldn&#8217;t you be surprised.  </p>
<p>As for all the &#8220;FAKE&#8221; people around you, well guess what oh brilliant one,&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s everyone.  It&#8217;s even the ones that you think are not (in your words) &#8220;FAKE&#8221;.  Everyone has an agenda.  EVERYONE !  </p>
<p>Do you find yourself responding in inappropriate ways to authorities. You may find yourself fluctuating between over-compliance and hostility.  If this is you then reach out and seek help because what you have becomes a sickness and will literally suck the life out of you.  Below you will find the first step to your recovery.  </p>
<p>Sandia Psychiatric Services<br />
2828 12th St NW, Albuquerque, NM</p>
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		<title>By: Heavy D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heavy D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Einstein, Did it ever occur to you that Mel (facrep) is one of those 12 people ? He and Ron G did the negoitiations for the leave. That is why it was done right. They also had the vision years ago, when they got in office to bring senator Diane Feinstein up to date on the BS that was happening at SCT and that is why SCT will probably be one of the facilities getting the 20% CIP. Meanwhile, The ex-facrep (Steve Merlin) is a supervisor in the BUR area. 
For the record. Things do not suck at SCT because of the efforts and hard work of people like Mel, Ron, Doug V and a few more (myself included). 
The majority of the membership does not care about anything but themselves.....just like PCT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Einstein, Did it ever occur to you that Mel (facrep) is one of those 12 people ? He and Ron G did the negoitiations for the leave. That is why it was done right. They also had the vision years ago, when they got in office to bring senator Diane Feinstein up to date on the BS that was happening at SCT and that is why SCT will probably be one of the facilities getting the 20% CIP. Meanwhile, The ex-facrep (Steve Merlin) is a supervisor in the BUR area.<br />
For the record. Things do not suck at SCT because of the efforts and hard work of people like Mel, Ron, Doug V and a few more (myself included).<br />
The majority of the membership does not care about anything but themselves&#8230;..just like PCT.</p>
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		<title>By: einstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>einstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HeavyD said that SCT has only 12 folks who care about the Union, so I guess he/she feels things suck there.  Yet a post on the Potomac&#039;s NATCA (TPCAU on 10/26/09) web site praises SCT&#039;s ability to negotiate a Prime time leave MOU.  The implication is they want PCT&#039;s management to be like SCT&#039;s.  What&#039;s up with that?  Does Mel hang out with management now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HeavyD said that SCT has only 12 folks who care about the Union, so I guess he/she feels things suck there.  Yet a post on the Potomac&#8217;s NATCA (TPCAU on 10/26/09) web site praises SCT&#8217;s ability to negotiate a Prime time leave MOU.  The implication is they want PCT&#8217;s management to be like SCT&#8217;s.  What&#8217;s up with that?  Does Mel hang out with management now?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZABnut, I understand your position and your right to say how you feel. I agree that a lot of our coworkers added to the misery. Like you said,I&#039;ve chosen to move on and try to make the best of today.Good luck to you and yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZABnut, I understand your position and your right to say how you feel. I agree that a lot of our coworkers added to the misery. Like you said,I&#8217;ve chosen to move on and try to make the best of today.Good luck to you and yours.</p>
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		<title>By: SweetPJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SweetPJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody know anything about SCT being 1 of 3 facilities that will be getting 20% CIP ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody know anything about SCT being 1 of 3 facilities that will be getting 20% CIP ?</p>
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		<title>By: Heavy D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heavy D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will NEVER forget what has happened the past 3 years nor the people who went to the dark side for whatever reason.
They are selfish cowards ! When I see my fellow controllers talking to them about anything but ATC stuff I want to puke.
Trust me, these are the very same people who will be bidding supe jobs and putting their boots on the throats of the controllers when the next republican President gets elected.
Stop Whining.....you are one of them.
Zabnut, I am proud to call you a union brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will NEVER forget what has happened the past 3 years nor the people who went to the dark side for whatever reason.<br />
They are selfish cowards ! When I see my fellow controllers talking to them about anything but ATC stuff I want to puke.<br />
Trust me, these are the very same people who will be bidding supe jobs and putting their boots on the throats of the controllers when the next republican President gets elected.<br />
Stop Whining&#8230;..you are one of them.<br />
Zabnut, I am proud to call you a union brother.</p>
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