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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And also AS@SCT, isn&#039;t there a fix in some bill so this never happens again? I think that would qualify as legislative action. And I know with the republicans in charge that it would never be in any bill. Not trying to start a flame war with you, just pointing out something I thought of after I posted the last post.

Rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And also AS@SCT, isn&#8217;t there a fix in some bill so this never happens again? I think that would qualify as legislative action. And I know with the republicans in charge that it would never be in any bill. Not trying to start a flame war with you, just pointing out something I thought of after I posted the last post.</p>
<p>Rick</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SCT controller wrote &quot;The FSS guys who lost their pensions are a perfect example of the NAZI tactics the FAA used.&quot; Oh really? Tell that to th 6 million people who were murdered. Not even close to being even remotely close to anything that could be described as even being remotely nazi. And I&#039;m  not looking for respect from you or anyone else. Get a grip fella, your incoherent factor is rising.

TX ACTS, I did not belong to FAAAMA, and never would. I suppose I did belong to supcom because every supervisor belongs to supcom whether they were &quot;active&quot; or not, so I guess I was part of the problem.

AS@SCT I wasn&#039;t aware that NATCA didn&#039;t give any pac contributions to Obama, or to a committee or some other entity that had as it&#039;s purpose to elect Obama, my bad. Of course NATCA Zxx and NATCA national were happy to have my money. And weren&#039;t they telling people to contribute to the PAC so we could get a democratic house and senate so we WOULD have a legislative fix to the IWR&#039;s. I think you may be putting a fine point on it AS@SCT. But I take your point.

And I didn&#039;t and never would vote McBush. Not that it&#039;s any of anyone business. My conscience is clear on that point anyway. 


Rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCT controller wrote &#8220;The FSS guys who lost their pensions are a perfect example of the NAZI tactics the FAA used.&#8221; Oh really? Tell that to th 6 million people who were murdered. Not even close to being even remotely close to anything that could be described as even being remotely nazi. And I&#8217;m  not looking for respect from you or anyone else. Get a grip fella, your incoherent factor is rising.</p>
<p>TX ACTS, I did not belong to FAAAMA, and never would. I suppose I did belong to supcom because every supervisor belongs to supcom whether they were &#8220;active&#8221; or not, so I guess I was part of the problem.</p>
<p>AS@SCT I wasn&#8217;t aware that NATCA didn&#8217;t give any pac contributions to Obama, or to a committee or some other entity that had as it&#8217;s purpose to elect Obama, my bad. Of course NATCA Zxx and NATCA national were happy to have my money. And weren&#8217;t they telling people to contribute to the PAC so we could get a democratic house and senate so we WOULD have a legislative fix to the IWR&#8217;s. I think you may be putting a fine point on it AS@SCT. But I take your point.</p>
<p>And I didn&#8217;t and never would vote McBush. Not that it&#8217;s any of anyone business. My conscience is clear on that point anyway. </p>
<p>Rick</p>
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		<title>By: AS@SCT</title>
		<link>http://www.faafollies.com/?p=1497&#038;cpage=1#comment-181888</link>
		<dc:creator>AS@SCT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 15:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So who did more to help overturn the white book? Me or you?&quot;

Rick


Obama overturned the Bush Blakey IWRS. He proposed it in 2006 in a then Senate bill(stymied by the then Republican &quot;leadership&quot;)and he kept his word to NATCA and sent FAA and NATCA back to the table once he became POTUS.

Executive action, not legislative, fixed the IWRs....so your PAC contributions had nothing to do with it.

And if you voted McBush Rick, you voted to continue the IWRS....maybe worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So who did more to help overturn the white book? Me or you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Rick</p>
<p>Obama overturned the Bush Blakey IWRS. He proposed it in 2006 in a then Senate bill(stymied by the then Republican &#8220;leadership&#8221;)and he kept his word to NATCA and sent FAA and NATCA back to the table once he became POTUS.</p>
<p>Executive action, not legislative, fixed the IWRs&#8230;.so your PAC contributions had nothing to do with it.</p>
<p>And if you voted McBush Rick, you voted to continue the IWRS&#8230;.maybe worse.</p>
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		<title>By: wtf</title>
		<link>http://www.faafollies.com/?p=1497&#038;cpage=1#comment-181826</link>
		<dc:creator>wtf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You get NO RESPECT FROM ME or anyone else that was on the receiving end of you being a supervisor.&quot;

How the hell do you know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You get NO RESPECT FROM ME or anyone else that was on the receiving end of you being a supervisor.&#8221;</p>
<p>How the hell do you know?</p>
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		<title>By: SCT Controller</title>
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		<dc:creator>SCT Controller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, Stop making excuses. You were part of the problem. The end ! You get NO RESPECT FROM ME or anyone else that was on the receiving end of you being a supervisor.
Like I said, the FAA could get rid of every supe, OM and ATM and things would run smoother.
Please tell me again how YOU made a difference.
The FSS guys who lost their pensions are a perfect example of the NAZI tactics the FAA used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, Stop making excuses. You were part of the problem. The end ! You get NO RESPECT FROM ME or anyone else that was on the receiving end of you being a supervisor.<br />
Like I said, the FAA could get rid of every supe, OM and ATM and things would run smoother.<br />
Please tell me again how YOU made a difference.<br />
The FSS guys who lost their pensions are a perfect example of the NAZI tactics the FAA used.</p>
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		<title>By: TX ATCS</title>
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		<dc:creator>TX ATCS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you belong, or did belong, to supcom or faama, then you did indeed help create this mess.

They did get input from faa atm&#039;s, om&#039;s and other stupes on what they wanted in the &quot;new contract&quot;.  

This is a mess.  

My facility....

44% trainees.  There&#039;s safety for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you belong, or did belong, to supcom or faama, then you did indeed help create this mess.</p>
<p>They did get input from faa atm&#8217;s, om&#8217;s and other stupes on what they wanted in the &#8220;new contract&#8221;.  </p>
<p>This is a mess.  </p>
<p>My facility&#8230;.</p>
<p>44% trainees.  There&#8217;s safety for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Nice try</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nice try</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old internet truism.

The longer an internet disagreement goes on, the chance of a nazi/hitler comparison goes way up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old internet truism.</p>
<p>The longer an internet disagreement goes on, the chance of a nazi/hitler comparison goes way up.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.faafollies.com/?p=1497&#038;cpage=1#comment-181764</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sct controller you said &quot;Rick, Looks like ZABNUT hit a nerve.&quot; 

I think it is just the opposite. It is he who is bleating on about nazis and whatever. Do you really think that it was nazi like when the FAA implemented the white book and the way management treated you? Even though it was heavy handed, to compare the FAA or FAAguy or me to a nazi seems a little bit on the psychotic side don&#039;t you think? Who was killed? Who was forcibly dragged out of thier home in the middle of the night and shot or forced to work until they died? Who had everyhing taken from him? And I don&#039;t mean a pension, I mean everything. I know it was bad working for the FAA, but come on, give me a break. I think whoever wrote above that his rage makes him incoherent was right. 

And Heavy D, I&#039;m not asking for any help or to be anybody&#039;s friend, or for anybody to have anything to do with me. All I was trying to do was to illustrate that the FAA management doesn&#039;t always take care of it&#039;s own. Sheesh.

And Zabnut, I gave just shy of $2000 dollars a year to the NATCA PAC for 3 years running. Even after I became a supervisor. In fact I was the highest contributor in the facility I worked at, with nearly 300 controllers, even as a supervisor. How much did you give? So who did more to help overturn the white book? Me or you?

Rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sct controller you said &#8220;Rick, Looks like ZABNUT hit a nerve.&#8221; </p>
<p>I think it is just the opposite. It is he who is bleating on about nazis and whatever. Do you really think that it was nazi like when the FAA implemented the white book and the way management treated you? Even though it was heavy handed, to compare the FAA or FAAguy or me to a nazi seems a little bit on the psychotic side don&#8217;t you think? Who was killed? Who was forcibly dragged out of thier home in the middle of the night and shot or forced to work until they died? Who had everyhing taken from him? And I don&#8217;t mean a pension, I mean everything. I know it was bad working for the FAA, but come on, give me a break. I think whoever wrote above that his rage makes him incoherent was right. </p>
<p>And Heavy D, I&#8217;m not asking for any help or to be anybody&#8217;s friend, or for anybody to have anything to do with me. All I was trying to do was to illustrate that the FAA management doesn&#8217;t always take care of it&#8217;s own. Sheesh.</p>
<p>And Zabnut, I gave just shy of $2000 dollars a year to the NATCA PAC for 3 years running. Even after I became a supervisor. In fact I was the highest contributor in the facility I worked at, with nearly 300 controllers, even as a supervisor. How much did you give? So who did more to help overturn the white book? Me or you?</p>
<p>Rick</p>
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		<title>By: Heavy D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heavy D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, Here is how it works with me. As long as you are a union controller I will do everything to help you and be a friend. As soon as you BID a management job I will not give you the time of day or have anything to do with you. Zabnut is right on the money with his post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, Here is how it works with me. As long as you are a union controller I will do everything to help you and be a friend. As soon as you BID a management job I will not give you the time of day or have anything to do with you. Zabnut is right on the money with his post.</p>
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		<title>By: SCT Controller</title>
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		<dc:creator>SCT Controller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, Looks like ZABNUT hit a nerve. I agree 100% with his post.
Get rid of every supe ,OM and manager for that matter and see how it affects the traffic. It doesn&#039;t ! Things would run smoother....not to mention the savings to taxpayers. They fired the wrong people in 1981.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, Looks like ZABNUT hit a nerve. I agree 100% with his post.<br />
Get rid of every supe ,OM and manager for that matter and see how it affects the traffic. It doesn&#8217;t ! Things would run smoother&#8230;.not to mention the savings to taxpayers. They fired the wrong people in 1981.</p>
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