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	<description>All the FAA madness we could fit!</description>
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		<title>By: JohnCarr</title>
		<link>http://www.faafollies.com/?p=1197&#038;cpage=1#comment-158931</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnCarr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, 
 
I meant to comment when this blog originally appeared back in March.  Unfortunately it&#039;s still true: 
 
My weiner hurts. 
 
:-) 
 
XXXOOO, 
 
JTB </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, </p>
<p>I meant to comment when this blog originally appeared back in March.  Unfortunately it&#039;s still true: </p>
<p>My weiner hurts.<br />
  <img src='http://www.faafollies.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>XXXOOO, </p>
<p>JTB</p>
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		<title>By: therapy counseling</title>
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		<dc:creator>therapy counseling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to therapy counseling when I had problems with my husband. The person who I talked to was very helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to therapy counseling when I had problems with my husband. The person who I talked to was very helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: obrien</title>
		<link>http://www.faafollies.com/?p=1197&#038;cpage=1#comment-151107</link>
		<dc:creator>obrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 05:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The the million dollar question (issue) will be over pay .
 
 Has any other FAA employee had their pay cut 30% the last 3yrs  ??
 
 Has any other FAA employee had their pay frozen  the last 3yrs  ??
 
 Has any other Federal employee had their pay cut 30% the last 3yrs  ??
 
 Has any other Federal employee had their pay frozen the last 3yrs  ??
 
 If it was really about the cost structure &amp; the budgets of the FAA/ATO then
why has no other group ( management ?!? ) shared in the sacrifice  ???????
 
 
 
The pay disparity between CPCs  &amp;  FLMs  is egregious &amp; needs to be addressed !!
 
 
 a  GS-14 at ZHU in 1998 made  $69,000 - 90,000
 
 a GS-15  at ZHU in 1998 made  $81,000 - 106,000
 
  
 
 a GS-14  in Houston 2009 earns $107,000 - 139,000
 
 a GS-15 in Houston  2009 earns $126,000 - 153,000
 
  
 national base  AT-11 pay band  is  $71500 -  102800
 
a newly certified CPC at ZHU currently starts at $92,000 
 
  the top of the CPC band is $132000  
 
 
adjusted for inflation a new CPC makes less than one did 11yrs ago 
 
$69,000 in 1998 dollars adjusted for inflation to 2009 is about $95,600
 (that&#039;s a fairly conservative 3% estimate)
 
 
a newly minted  FLM at ZHU starts at $158,000-160,000
 
  the top of the FLM pay is $177,000
 
$81,000 in 1998 dollars adjusted for inflation to 2009 is about $112,200
 
 
that&#039;s about a 72% - 92% pay disparity from a new CPC to a FLM
 
even at the top of the band it&#039;s a 26% difference 
 
 
 When in the 42 history of the FAA has a first line operations supervisor 
ever made 75% more than a controller  ?????
 
 
are  FLMs  74-92%  more productive than CPCs  ??
 
are  FLMs  74-92% more efficient than CPCs  ??
 
are FLMs  74-92%  more essential to the mission of the ATO than CPCs  ??
 
 
Where in the private sector does a first line manager make 72-92% more than
the employees he/she supervises  ??
 
  
Often when I come in to work Sunday mornings at 7am there&#039;s  3 FLMs at
the sups desk  &quot;supervising&quot;  7-10 CPCs 
 
 that&#039;s  $480-530k  managing 7-10 people  !!
 
Where in the private sector are the staffing ratios like that  ???
 
 
 It may be an uphill battle in the current economic environment but 
NATCA needs to bring this issue front &amp; center to the FAA an do their best
 to rectify the pay issue !!!

 
http://www.opm.gov/oca/98tables/GSANNUAL/HTML/HOU.htm
 
http://www.opm.gov/oca/98tables/GSANNUAL/INDEX.HTM
 
 
https://employees.faa.gov/employee_services/pay_perf/pay/media/ATSPP_pay_bands_with_locality.xls 
 
 
http://www.opm.gov/oca/09tables/html/hou.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The the million dollar question (issue) will be over pay .</p>
<p> Has any other FAA employee had their pay cut 30% the last 3yrs  ??</p>
<p> Has any other FAA employee had their pay frozen  the last 3yrs  ??</p>
<p> Has any other Federal employee had their pay cut 30% the last 3yrs  ??</p>
<p> Has any other Federal employee had their pay frozen the last 3yrs  ??</p>
<p> If it was really about the cost structure &amp; the budgets of the FAA/ATO then<br />
why has no other group ( management ?!? ) shared in the sacrifice  ???????</p>
<p>The pay disparity between CPCs  &amp;  FLMs  is egregious &amp; needs to be addressed !!</p>
<p> a  GS-14 at ZHU in 1998 made  $69,000 &#8211; 90,000</p>
<p> a GS-15  at ZHU in 1998 made  $81,000 &#8211; 106,000</p>
<p> a GS-14  in Houston 2009 earns $107,000 &#8211; 139,000</p>
<p> a GS-15 in Houston  2009 earns $126,000 &#8211; 153,000</p>
<p> national base  AT-11 pay band  is  $71500 &#8211;  102800</p>
<p>a newly certified CPC at ZHU currently starts at $92,000 </p>
<p>  the top of the CPC band is $132000  </p>
<p>adjusted for inflation a new CPC makes less than one did 11yrs ago </p>
<p>$69,000 in 1998 dollars adjusted for inflation to 2009 is about $95,600<br />
 (that&#8217;s a fairly conservative 3% estimate)</p>
<p>a newly minted  FLM at ZHU starts at $158,000-160,000</p>
<p>  the top of the FLM pay is $177,000</p>
<p>$81,000 in 1998 dollars adjusted for inflation to 2009 is about $112,200</p>
<p>that&#8217;s about a 72% &#8211; 92% pay disparity from a new CPC to a FLM</p>
<p>even at the top of the band it&#8217;s a 26% difference </p>
<p> When in the 42 history of the FAA has a first line operations supervisor<br />
ever made 75% more than a controller  ?????</p>
<p>are  FLMs  74-92%  more productive than CPCs  ??</p>
<p>are  FLMs  74-92% more efficient than CPCs  ??</p>
<p>are FLMs  74-92%  more essential to the mission of the ATO than CPCs  ??</p>
<p>Where in the private sector does a first line manager make 72-92% more than<br />
the employees he/she supervises  ??</p>
<p>Often when I come in to work Sunday mornings at 7am there&#8217;s  3 FLMs at<br />
the sups desk  &#8220;supervising&#8221;  7-10 CPCs </p>
<p> that&#8217;s  $480-530k  managing 7-10 people  !!</p>
<p>Where in the private sector are the staffing ratios like that  ???</p>
<p> It may be an uphill battle in the current economic environment but<br />
NATCA needs to bring this issue front &amp; center to the FAA an do their best<br />
 to rectify the pay issue !!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.opm.gov/oca/98tables/GSANNUAL/HTML/HOU.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.opm.gov/oca/98tables/GSANNUAL/HTML/HOU.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.opm.gov/oca/98tables/GSANNUAL/INDEX.HTM" rel="nofollow">http://www.opm.gov/oca/98tables/GSANNUAL/INDEX.HTM</a></p>
<p><a href="https://employees.faa.gov/employee_services/pay_perf/pay/media/ATSPP_pay_bands_with_locality.xls" rel="nofollow">https://employees.faa.gov/employee_services/pay_perf/pay/media/ATSPP_pay_bands_with_locality.xls</a> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I told you guys all along that FAAGuy was one of the better managers.  We might not agree (actually, strike &quot;might&quot;) on everything, but he has consistently shown that he DOES give a rip about the employees, and his post here demonstrates that he&#039;s got his head on straight when it comes to the job.

Now if we can just get a bunch more like him and empower them to speak up when things are going sour, we might get somewhere in this FAA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told you guys all along that FAAGuy was one of the better managers.  We might not agree (actually, strike &#8220;might&#8221;) on everything, but he has consistently shown that he DOES give a rip about the employees, and his post here demonstrates that he&#8217;s got his head on straight when it comes to the job.</p>
<p>Now if we can just get a bunch more like him and empower them to speak up when things are going sour, we might get somewhere in this FAA.</p>
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		<title>By: B-Rat</title>
		<link>http://www.faafollies.com/?p=1197&#038;cpage=1#comment-133531</link>
		<dc:creator>B-Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FAA Guy, you just moved up a notch in my book. That puts you at notch one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FAA Guy, you just moved up a notch in my book. That puts you at notch one.</p>
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		<title>By: Smitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 05:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FAAguy, I know you are management somewhere, but I appreciate you being levelheaded and fair. Unfortunately with those excellent personal qualities you won&#039;t be going anywhere in FAA management, they frown on that. Sorry =(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FAAguy, I know you are management somewhere, but I appreciate you being levelheaded and fair. Unfortunately with those excellent personal qualities you won&#8217;t be going anywhere in FAA management, they frown on that. Sorry =(</p>
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		<title>By: FAAGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.faafollies.com/?p=1197&#038;cpage=1#comment-132855</link>
		<dc:creator>FAAGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Frank,

If you think a couple of whiners requires a room full of FLMs (with their corresponding salaries) to manage I have to completely disagree with you. There are high-maintenance people at every level of the FAA (yes, FLMs, OMs, and ATMs too). The majority of people come in and do an INCREDIBLE job controlling the aircraft in the NAS and you never hear a cross word from them. When&#039;s the last time you vented to your OM?

If someone has something negative to say, my recommendation would be for you to listen to it. It is your job to help solve problems for the people you work with (for that which is in your power to solve). The person has something that is important to them (even if it is not important to you) and who knows, it may be an issue/idea that can have wide-spread impact. 

I know that labeling someone a &quot;whiner&quot; and just moving on requires a lot less work, but hey, at 177K I think the taxpayers deserve your max effort every minute of your workday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Frank,</p>
<p>If you think a couple of whiners requires a room full of FLMs (with their corresponding salaries) to manage I have to completely disagree with you. There are high-maintenance people at every level of the FAA (yes, FLMs, OMs, and ATMs too). The majority of people come in and do an INCREDIBLE job controlling the aircraft in the NAS and you never hear a cross word from them. When&#8217;s the last time you vented to your OM?</p>
<p>If someone has something negative to say, my recommendation would be for you to listen to it. It is your job to help solve problems for the people you work with (for that which is in your power to solve). The person has something that is important to them (even if it is not important to you) and who knows, it may be an issue/idea that can have wide-spread impact. </p>
<p>I know that labeling someone a &#8220;whiner&#8221; and just moving on requires a lot less work, but hey, at 177K I think the taxpayers deserve your max effort every minute of your workday.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose Red</title>
		<link>http://www.faafollies.com/?p=1197&#038;cpage=1#comment-132594</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What IS a frank?

1. Tube sandwich.
2. Beef and Pork by-products.
3. Weinie.
4. hotdawg.
5. Linc trainer for a &quot;flamer&quot;
6. Help me out...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What IS a frank?</p>
<p>1. Tube sandwich.<br />
2. Beef and Pork by-products.<br />
3. Weinie.<br />
4. hotdawg.<br />
5. Linc trainer for a &#8220;flamer&#8221;<br />
6. Help me out&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
		<link>http://www.faafollies.com/?p=1197&#038;cpage=1#comment-132587</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DON&#039;T BE A
  FRANK      buttons available soon! Standby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DON&#8217;T BE A<br />
  FRANK      buttons available soon! Standby!</p>
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		<title>By: ahnold Calie Fohnya</title>
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		<dc:creator>ahnold Calie Fohnya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s raise this up the flagpole.  This should be at LaHood&#039;s level.  What does Ruth think?  What will she do?  What does Pat think?  And do?  Someone help us from ourselves!  Perhaps Mr. Tourmey?  Help?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s raise this up the flagpole.  This should be at LaHood&#8217;s level.  What does Ruth think?  What will she do?  What does Pat think?  And do?  Someone help us from ourselves!  Perhaps Mr. Tourmey?  Help?</p>
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